While circumstances ultimately determined the success and failures of some of the top prospects in the class, it's fun to take a look at how things could've turned out with a little 20/20 vision shaping our new opinions: 1. 25. The Raiders flipped Gallery back and forth between left and right tackle, desperately trying to find a position for him. How can you judge QB's playing in freezing weather with super strong winds? by commissionerleaf // Mar 19, 2010 - 1:34pm, In reply to Re: 2004 NFL Draft: Six Years Later by Mr Shush. Manning won't make it unless the Giants win some more championships, nor should he (whether they do or not). I think that Brady really needs a consistent set of receivers. 1 corner during a nine-year career. Even if everything goes perfect in a season for him he will still finish 16th-10th among quarterbacks. At some point, Romo's miserable playoff record has to count against him. No quarterback class, not even the famous class of 1983, can outshine the performance of Rivers, Roethlisberger, and Manning, who have combined for three Super Bowl championships, a bevy of playoff appearances and oodles and oodles of yards. If his receivers develop a little bit and his offensive line recovers, he could easily be a top 5 QB next year. I am quite certain that he won't. Replacement level mediocrity who played his worst when it mattered most and repeatedly had to get bailed out by an aging Steve Grogan... by C (not verified) // Mar 19, 2010 - 12:06pm. Why is this guy not up in the discussion of all time greats when he retires? I think that Brady really needs a consistent set of receivers because what he does well is break down defenses. I'd be real pleased with Moss, Welker, Gaffney, and Edelman. Pick:Rashaun Woods, WR 2 (35) - Igor Olshansky 3. San Diego Chargers (not verified), by Neoplatonist B… (not verified) // Mar 21, 2010 - 6:12pm, In reply to Re: 2004 NFL Draft: Six Years Later by Neoplatonist B… (not verified). - Eli's teams always make the playoffs ( except last year), Mcnabb similar Do-Over:Daryl Smith, LB Didn't seem to make the same clutch throws that he has in the past but wasn't helped out by his receivers a few times (Galloway, Faulk bobbling 4th and 2, Edelman dropped one or two). There's a listing of gametime wind speed, but it doesn't account for gusts or changes. Typical mainstream media article ignoring the Jacksonville Jaguars as part of a conspiracy against the small market teams. Comment: Clayton flashed intriguing potential, but Dansby would've been a terrific fit as a playmaker in the middle of the Buccaneers' defense. He didnt play great in san diego, and my opinion is that he would have played great in san diego if it was as friendly to pass there as most readers are implying. Apparently biased jackasses know no geographic boundaries. More importantly, he has the best set of hands and the best body control of any receiver in recent memory. Rivers was in the discussion for mvp the last two years. Comment: Cooley quietly developed into one of the NFL's top tight ends during a solid nine-year career. Patriots' defensive DVOA and ranking, since Wilfork was drafted: Year ___ DVOA ___ Rank Woods looked the part of a big-time wide receiver at OSU, setting Big 12 records in receptions, yardage and touchdowns, but his professional career went off the rails almost immediately and never recovered. Well earth to dave, he was in san diego from 2001-2005. 22. And then got a contract extension. Pick:Tommie Harris, DT Like don't you think the team with say the #1 draft pick that has the #1 pick in each round of the draft SHOULD have a better draft than say the team with the 20th pick in every round? NFL draft 2021: The 50 best players available for the Patriots heading into Day 3. by C (not verified) // Mar 20, 2010 - 8:44am. By Matt Weston @Matt__Weston May 1, 2021, 6:00am CDT And yes, I'm arbitrarily slicing up the population into generations much as is done with terms like "baby boomers" and "Generation X". Grading Scale 10: Once-in-a-Generation Prospect at Their Position ( No. 2 3 7 70 Joey Thomas DB Montana State The '83 class has two legitimate candidates for Best QB Ever. Larry Fitzgerald Pick:Chris Perry, RB Also, note that Bledsoe and Collins were both younger than Eli when they entered the league (a lot younger, in Bledsoe's case). Bucky Brooks says things should have gone differently for the Cowboys in his 2011 NFL Draft Do-Over. NJ and Pitt are both cold, but the wind in the Meadowlands make it horrible. He's got a lot to prove before he can say that. you are the new delusional buffoon. Eli threw 23 more TDs and 8 fewer interceptions. By "in the discussion for MVP the last two years", you mean getting 0 votes two years ago? That's not going to sit well with a lot of fans. Most of the nfl fans werent watching football in the 70's and whoopty freaking do im glad you got to enjoy that victory that they had before you were born or started to follow football. by Bowl Game Anomaly // Mar 21, 2010 - 7:25pm, by Big Johnson (not verified) // Mar 22, 2010 - 12:52am, In reply to Re: 2004 NFL Draft: Six Years Later by Bowl Game Anomaly. Sorry about that.). Highest pick: Eli Manning, Ole Miss, first overall to the Chargers. by C (not verified) // Mar 20, 2010 - 8:50am. Roethlisberger will get in as a result of being a very good but not great quarterback on some outstanding teams, much like the last Steeler QB to go to Canton. Their record is inflated by beating up on the pansy (since 2006; in 2005 a Chargers team every bit as good as the others finished 4 games back of Shanahan's last good Broncos squad) AFC West but when they run up against first-class teams in the playoffs they lose despite playing at around their usual level. He got clobbered against Minnesota, but was decent against Seattle and New York and killed Philly. 2005: 8th in dyar, 9th in dvoa, 3421 yards, 24 td's, 14 int. It had top quarterbacks, elite cornerbacks, and explosive wide receivers by the bushel. Pick:Robert Gallery, OT Only a Charger fan could think that championships don't matter. alright no more making suggestions OR going off of stats. Just thinking about it makes me shake my fist at the sky and curse the cruel Football Gods. by Fan in Exile // Mar 19, 2010 - 12:49pm. One classic (for me) example of this is that Manning and Marino are different generations. Cincinnati Bengals New England Patriots Rivers shouldnt be penalized cause its sunny where he plays. - Neither guy was ever like a top 3 QB In reply to Re: 2004 NFL Draft: Six Years Later by MilkmanDanimal. That higher premium meant that teams were willing to consider drafting tight ends in the rarified air of the top five or six picks in the draft -- a place traditionally reserved for quarterbacks, left tackles, defensive ends, and whatever receiver Matt Millen happened to covet that year. He might have better stats but he doesn't have rings like the other two. Yeah that's it. Round 3 Nick Hardwick - Pro Bowl Center Jason Peters There should be a spoiler alert preceding his name for Redskins fans. "', Or in March 2010 for Sean McCormick's article of the same name ;), by Danish Denver-Fan // Mar 19, 2010 - 11:51am. Instead of the star-crossed "soldier" with his broken fibulas and staph infections (not to mention motorcycle accidents), we'll go with Cooley, a two-time Pro Bowler and blogosphere all-star. 21. NFL footage © NFL Productions LLC. It's a shame people don't really pay attention to safety play. Also, Torbor has never been much more than a role-player; he only has 21 starts in 6 seasons. Oh and who were the winners of the draft??? That is spectacularly good going. Best value: Bernard Berrian, Fresno State, 78th overall to the Bears and Jerricho Cotchery, North Carolina State, 108th overall to the Jets. Romo's a better quarterback now, but he's nearly four years older than Rodgers, and I suspect his skillset is one which is more susceptible to premature decline. - Both guys are very smart or smarts is a big part of their game The Redskins eventually took the game out of Collins' hands and won, while the Giants kept throwing it with little success, and lost. 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